Saturday, November 2, 2013

Gabriel Fridegotto Discussion response for week 10

Gabriel Fridegotto
Professor Shirk
International Organization
Short Paper
Discussion
Ethical and moral evaluations of state and sovereignty

In this weeks discussion, the class began to think about the different theories of various political philosophers. Thomas Hobbs and John Locke are the two who spoke of the idea of the “state of nature,” where human beings acted a certain way when there was no formal governance or political organization. Hobbs believed that the humans in the “state of nature,” where inertly prudish and always were at perpetual war. The only real concern that they had was to stay alive, under whatever means possible. So if that mean they needed to kill others around them they would just to stay alive. Locke's theory was less pessimistic, he believed that humans were more capable of working together and form smaller groups that would cooperate to stay alive. This was a big step forward from Hobbs theory because Locke did not believe that all humans in the state of nature we just trying to stay alive.
I believe its important to understand why both of these philosophers thought that there needed to be any form of government at all, and how their views were shaped by the state of nature. Hobbs, believing that humans only wanted to stay alive, thought that the form of government needed should be a complete monarchy, in which all humans gave their rights meaning the right to stay alive and do as they please without having to answer to anyone, and give that to the figure he called the leviathan. In return this entity would provide all with protection and humans would not have to worry about being killed or war.
Locke thought differently, his view of the state of nature led him to believe that since humans had other things to worry about, besides war and being killed, they would need a government system to only intervene when a dispute broke out between two humans. A form of a third party that would act to solve disputes. Therefore Locke believed in humans property rights more. The phrase, life, Liberty and the pursuit of freedom was founded on Locke's social contract theory. It was originally the pursuit of life, liberty and property. The social contract theory was an extremely new idea in political philosophy. Humans instead of being In the state of nature would give up some of their rights, once again to do as they please to gain rights of property and protection.
I believe this would be a modern day interpretation of what many in the libertarian party. Although, referring to the more conservative base, that believes any government system should only intervene for protection, such as police and fire departments but stay out of every other aspects of human life.
This brings up another question of then what do anarchist believe? According to the other two readings that were discussed in class, the theories that anarchist believe, although seen as extreme by many, is simply a counter system of the modern social political societies we have today. The Simmons reading gave explanation of the various concepts of the modern state and the difference it would have to any sort of anarchic way of human life. First the questions, that weren't asked in class are, Are states the right way to go? And what are the alternatives according to the Simmons article? Are political societies best and acceptable? Why have states? These are seemingly simple questions to answer, but I believe are much more complicated to explain. First, one must define both the modern state system and then answer why it is needed. Then we can begin to discuss alternatives, as in the anarchist views.
Simmons states that there are two specific criterion to be categorized as a modern state. One, claim to sovereignty, and two is claim to geographical sovereignty. Meaning being an independent state and being recognizing that very state is within specific boundaries. There are many modern day examples of this, one being Palestine. It technically has some territoriality sovereignty, but does not have claim to full sovereignty in the international community. This bring us to the next point, in the modern state system there is this idea of international and domestic, meaning there are many states within an anarchical world. No one absolute power over anyone. So if this can happen in a world system why would it not work in human societies. I believe that most people living within the modern system have been conditioned to believe that there is no other way to live.
This is the point that is made in the Scott readings, as mentioned in class. The Scott reading is interesting because it tries to see the modern state system through an anarchist viewpoint. That viewpoint is very different than some of the conceptions that many people have about anarchy today. Not all people associate a state of anarchy as looting and rioting and the absence of law. Scott states, although not completely endorsing anarchist theory to the fullest, that anarchy can work. The absence of all government can only work, if the view of the state of nature is inherently good. That people want to cooperate and work together without having a political society telling them how to do things through laws.
This is also the point that Simmons makes when he discusses that humans were at one point living without the modern states system we have today. Instead they were living in city leagues, city-states and empires. Roman Empire, Feudal relations of the middle ages, Many only claimed the right of use rather than the right to complete and permanent control of land. Which brings up a counter argument to the anarchist viewpoint. If everyone lived in an anarchical world with no nations having governments, would states even exist?
Using an extreme example, there are people living in Antarctica, which is only categorized as a continent and not a state, would these people be living in total anarchy? It is possible, since there are very little people having to live in this society. This is some regards as I mentioned in class reminds me of some communist theories that state that communities would exist with people would live self subsistence lives. This would still entail some sort of political society and government.
In conclusion I believe, no matter what the state of nature is, the current modern world system is needed to keep order. Yes, there are many wars that have occurred in history, but out of that history the system we have today emerged. Humans by nature in my opinion need structure and quoting back to John Locke's theory of the social contract, all humans live under one right now. In the United States we sign a piece of paper that elects our leaders and if we don't like them we can vote them out every four years for president and every two for senate and every 6 for house of representatives. If this social contract did not exist, I believe in the end would lead way for one or only few to gain power and not let it go, so anarchy in would lead to some sort of authoritarian form of government, which is political society.



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